1 00:00:00,530 --> 00:00:10,709 [Music] 2 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:13,430 comets and asteroids are truly the time 3 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,000 capsules of our galaxy with many of them 4 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:18,720 dating back to more than 4 billion years 5 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:21,439 ago these prehistoric treasures hold the 6 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:23,760 lost tales about the origins of our 7 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:26,880 solar system and luckily we are slowly 8 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:29,119 starting to unravel its story 9 00:00:34,630 --> 00:00:31,840 missions like nasa's osiris-rex and jack 10 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:34,640 says hybus hivasua ii are providing 11 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:36,880 insight into the history of our solar 12 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:40,079 system and even how life began on earth 13 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:43,120 so what's next hello and welcome to 14 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:45,600 another virtual episode of nasa science 15 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:48,399 live i'm your host tahira allen and 16 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:50,640 today we're talking all about one of 17 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:53,760 nasa's upcoming asteroid missions lucy 18 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,239 the first spacecraft to study the trojan 19 00:01:01,349 --> 00:00:58,800 asteroids which orbit the sun in two 20 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:01,359 groups one in front of jupiter's path 21 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:03,120 and the other behind it 22 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,840 once launched in october 2021 the 23 00:01:10,710 --> 00:01:08,400 mission will complete a 12-year journey 24 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:10,720 to seven different trojan asteroids that 25 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:13,600 may hold vital clues to deciphering the 26 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,560 history of our solar system but before 27 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:18,880 we get started let's take a deeper look 28 00:02:59,509 --> 00:01:57,210 [Music] 29 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:01,270 great so now that we learned a little 30 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:03,280 bit more about this exciting mission 31 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:05,440 let's talk to some of the experts behind 32 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:08,080 it i am thrilled to be joined today by 33 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:11,519 dr adriana ocampo lucy program executive 34 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:13,280 at nasa headquarters 35 00:03:18,149 --> 00:03:16,000 dr kathy olkan deputy principal 36 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:18,159 investigator for southwest research 37 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,360 institute and jessica thompson project 38 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:24,000 systems engineer at nasa goddard ladies 39 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:25,840 thank you all so much for being here 40 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:28,319 today and to kick things off could you 41 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:30,239 help us understand a little bit more 42 00:03:36,869 --> 00:03:33,720 about what a trojan asteroid is 43 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:36,879 yes thank you for that question 44 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:37,760 um 45 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:40,959 let's see if we go back in time to a 46 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:43,680 point about four and a half billion 47 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:45,840 years ago 48 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,720 when the early solar system was 49 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,120 could have seen a dense cloud 50 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:54,080 interstellar dust then this dust would 51 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:55,200 have 52 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:58,720 collapsed and formed the solar nebula 53 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:01,599 which started to speak ensure by the 54 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:03,200 gravitational force 55 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:06,080 and that is what grabbed that material 56 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:08,319 and started forming the 57 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:11,280 the early planet solar system 58 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:15,200 and the trojans are really the remnant 59 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:16,400 of that 60 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:20,320 planetary formation process that form 61 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:25,040 planets like jupiter's saturn action and 62 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:26,880 venus 63 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:30,320 we are very excited that uh 64 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:32,320 for the first time we're going to go and 65 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:34,800 explore a solar system 66 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:37,759 uh with a loose emission in this epic 67 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:40,240 voyage of 12 years 68 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:42,560 and the lunch countdown has already 69 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:45,120 started we are only at 10 70 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:45,919 um 71 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:48,800 10 months and 12 days from the opening 72 00:05:00,550 --> 00:04:57,749 there are thousands of asteroids out 73 00:05:03,189 --> 00:05:00,560 there and lucy will fly by them between 74 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:03,199 300 and 600 miles away 75 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:05,440 allowing us a close-up view of all the 76 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:07,440 detail on the surface 77 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,240 these asteroids are in a unique position 78 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:12,080 in that they are clustered in jupiter's 79 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,560 orbit at the lagrange points 80 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:16,320 lagrange points are places in space 81 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:18,639 where objects tend to stay put due to 82 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:20,880 the gravitational pull of two large 83 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:22,479 masses nearby 84 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:24,720 the forces on these small bodies put 85 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:26,479 them in equilibrium 86 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:28,080 meaning they're trapped in place 87 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:30,800 allowing lucy to fly to them and image 88 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:37,350 and one of the really intriguing aspects 89 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:39,520 of the trojan asteroids is that they're 90 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:41,440 a diverse population 91 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:43,600 from astronomical observations they 92 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:46,320 appear to be just a point of light but 93 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:48,400 that's enough information so that we can 94 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,360 see 95 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:51,600 some of the surface properties like 96 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:54,320 color and surface composition and we can 97 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:56,639 see that there's a wide range some 98 00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:58,560 trojan asteroids are more red than 99 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:00,720 others for example 100 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,440 and this is an image of two of our 101 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:05,759 trojan targets that lucy will go and 102 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:09,039 visit this is patroclus and menacious 103 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:10,720 this image was taken with the hubble 104 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:13,600 space telescope and these targets are 105 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:15,600 really interesting because 106 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:17,680 they are a binary system and they're 107 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:20,639 about the same size so they orbit a 108 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,950 wow so what we already know is 109 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,520 fascinating and i'm wondering why is it 110 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,199 important for a mission like lucy to 111 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:33,440 study them 112 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,120 well the diversity of the trojan 113 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:37,440 asteroids is a clue that they really had 114 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:41,120 a very interesting history if they were 115 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,280 formed in the location we find them in 116 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:45,280 today we would have expected a much more 117 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:47,520 uniform population 118 00:06:50,950 --> 00:06:48,479 but 119 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:50,960 we don't see that and there's some 120 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:52,960 current theories of 121 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:55,680 uh modern solar modern theories of solar 122 00:06:59,830 --> 00:06:57,919 system formation that involve the 123 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,840 migration of 124 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:02,400 giant planets away from the sun and this 125 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,120 causes a chaotic disruption of the small 126 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,520 bodies in the solar system 127 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:09,520 and we believe that this caused some of 128 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:11,440 these bodies to be ejected from our 129 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:14,960 solar system and others to be trapped in 130 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:16,880 these lagrange points 131 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:20,000 forming the trojan asteroids that we see 132 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,160 and for these reasons over the course of 133 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:24,560 12 years we're going to visit seven 134 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:31,350 spacecraft so to add to 135 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,759 what kathy just mentioned 136 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:36,720 um you know one of the key questions 137 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,039 that we have in planetary science is 138 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:41,599 what is the molecule of water and the 139 00:07:48,390 --> 00:07:45,280 organic material that sparked the life 140 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:48,400 as knowledge in our planet came from 141 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:51,360 and asteroids hold the key to these 142 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:53,919 questions and by studying the trojan 143 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:56,560 asteroids the loose emission will shed 144 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:59,440 light to this enigmatic 145 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:01,520 question on how 146 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:04,400 life may have arrived to earth 147 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:07,120 lucy will not only investigate the 148 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,240 trojan asteroids composition but it will 149 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:12,319 also 150 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:16,240 be able to inform the relative age and 151 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,599 the chronology on how the processes 152 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:21,599 happen in the formation of the solar 153 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:26,950 wow i mean this is all super incredible 154 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:30,160 and so jessica i actually heard that the 155 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:33,519 name lucy has a tie to the beatles um 156 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:34,640 and i was wondering if you could 157 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:37,360 elaborate on that 158 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:40,800 yeah it absolutely does lucy is named 159 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:43,200 after the hominin skeleton fossil that 160 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:45,600 was discovered in ethiopia by donald 161 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:47,040 johansen 162 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:49,680 and upon discovering this skeleton 163 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:52,800 the team celebrated looking to the stars 164 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,880 while playing the beatles song lucy in 165 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:56,560 the sky with diamonds 166 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:59,040 which led to the name of the fossil 167 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:00,800 and just like the discovery of this 168 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:02,880 skeleton taught us about the origins of 169 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:05,600 humanity the lucy asteroid mission will 170 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:07,600 teach us about the origins of the solar 171 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:13,509 well i mean lucy has a very big task at 172 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:16,000 hand it sounds like and i'm wondering 173 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:18,560 what are some of the instruments that um 174 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:22,399 the mission has to complete this 175 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:24,000 that's a great question 176 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:25,600 so although we can't see the 177 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:27,680 characteristics of the trojans very well 178 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:30,560 from the ground lucy has five cameras on 179 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:32,880 board that will capture close-up images 180 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:35,200 in different wavelengths the lorry 181 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:36,800 instrument will take pictures in the 182 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:38,399 visible spectrum 183 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:40,480 similar to your iphone camera but more 184 00:09:43,590 --> 00:09:42,160 sophisticated 185 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:43,600 which will allow this mission to be able 186 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:46,000 to get a great view of the geology of 187 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:47,760 the surface 188 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:50,480 lucy also has a thermal camera named 189 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:51,360 tess 190 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:52,880 that will take pictures of the 191 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:55,200 temperature on the surface similar to 192 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,399 seeing a body heat picture of yourself 193 00:10:04,069 --> 00:10:01,120 and our third camera is kind of a two in 194 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:04,079 one camera called ralph which takes 195 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,040 infrared and visible color images by 196 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:09,440 scanning the surface of each asteroid as 197 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,470 and also we have a 198 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:18,959 very interesting experiment 199 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:20,720 on board the 200 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,040 the spacecraft that we call the gravity 201 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:25,440 experiment we actually use 202 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:27,920 the hygiene antenna that you can see 203 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:31,360 here the encircle the circle in silver 204 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:33,519 and this is in a collaboration with the 205 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:36,079 germany german space 206 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:37,360 agency 207 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:39,680 uh and these the gravity experiments 208 00:10:44,069 --> 00:10:42,240 will help us determine the mass of the 209 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:44,079 trojan 210 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:47,920 asteroids as the lucid spacecraft fly by 211 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,880 them 212 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:50,880 this is a very sensitive 213 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:53,279 experiment that will 214 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:54,800 enable 215 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:56,320 to determine 216 00:11:01,670 --> 00:10:58,240 any deviation on the spacecraft 217 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:01,680 trajectory as it flies by the trojan 218 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:03,040 asteroids 219 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:03,920 and 220 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:07,600 in that way will determine the mass of 221 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:10,079 or or the amount of matter that there is 222 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:12,640 in these objects and from there their 223 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:15,200 density 224 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:17,600 and we also have two terminal tracking 225 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,760 cameras on board these are part of the 226 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:21,360 guidance and control system of the 227 00:11:26,069 --> 00:11:23,519 spacecraft but we'll be able to use 228 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:26,079 these cameras to collect wide field of 229 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:27,920 view images 230 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:30,399 as we fly past you can see them at the 231 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:33,440 top of this graphic this is our 232 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:35,839 instrument pointing platform 233 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:38,399 where our cameras reside and it's the 234 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:41,279 two small objects round objects at the 235 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:42,399 top 236 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:45,040 and we will use these 237 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:48,079 uh cameras to be able to get the volume 238 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:51,760 of the trojan asteroids through imaging 239 00:11:57,829 --> 00:11:52,880 and 240 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:57,839 be able to learn about the density of 241 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:00,000 our trojan asteroids 242 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:02,399 using all of these instruments together 243 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:03,920 we're going to be able to investigate 244 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:06,560 the geology the surface composition 245 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:08,959 their internal properties and search for 246 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:11,440 satellites at these trojan asteroids 247 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:12,639 it's going to be a great first 248 00:12:17,110 --> 00:12:15,040 reconnaissance 249 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:17,120 wow and this just sounds like a really 250 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:19,440 complex piece of technology and i'm 251 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,079 wondering how many people work on this 252 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:24,399 mission 253 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:26,560 tahira that's a great question there's 254 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,839 approximately 750 people that have been 255 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:32,000 involved with this lucy mission 256 00:12:35,829 --> 00:12:34,560 lucy family is really a big mix of 257 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:35,839 engineers 258 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:38,480 technicians scientists 259 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:41,040 managers and even interns 260 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:44,000 our team is truly the key to our success 261 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:45,920 and it's been very motivating to work 262 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:47,920 with people from multiple organizations 263 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:49,440 and universities 264 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:51,279 and i'll tell you each and every 265 00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:53,360 person's role and experience on this 266 00:12:58,470 --> 00:12:55,839 mission has been vital to designing 267 00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:58,480 building testing and soon to be 268 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:01,440 launching this spacecraft 269 00:13:06,069 --> 00:13:03,920 wow that is incredible to know that so 270 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:06,079 many people come together for one 271 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:08,560 amazing object and but i do want to go 272 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:10,560 back to an animation earlier in the show 273 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:13,040 because it looked like there were swarms 274 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,200 of trojan asteroids um in front of 275 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:17,440 behind jupiter and so i'm wondering if 276 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:19,440 we were standing on one of the trojan 277 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:21,680 asteroids would we see many of them 278 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:23,839 around us 279 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:25,680 while these green dots look like they're 280 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:27,920 really close together the animation 281 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,800 doesn't convey how vast and empty space 282 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:32,160 actually is 283 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:33,760 it wouldn't look like the millennium 284 00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:36,160 falcon flying through an asteroid belt 285 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:38,079 dodging asteroids 286 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:40,880 of the about 5 000 known trojan 287 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:43,040 asteroids in each swarm they're 288 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:45,680 separated each separated by about 9 289 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:48,720 million miles so if we were standing on 290 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:51,760 a trojan asteroid and looked out at them 291 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:54,639 at the at the other trojans there we 292 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:56,079 actually wouldn't be able to see them 293 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:57,360 with our eye 294 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,360 or at least not many of them because 295 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:01,519 some of them would be as faint as a 10th 296 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,240 magnitude star 297 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:06,480 wow okay those movies are very deceiving 298 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:08,639 uh thank you for putting that input into 299 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:11,600 perspective for us and so i am seeing a 300 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:13,360 lot of great questions rolling from 301 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:16,000 users online and if you are watching now 302 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:17,519 please don't hesitate to join the 303 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:19,440 conversation with us submit your 304 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:21,120 questions in the comment box where 305 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,040 you're viewing from or by using the 306 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:25,920 hashtag asknasa on social media so 307 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:28,399 ladies to kick things off i have nope 308 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:31,120 nope nope on youtube uh jessica i think 309 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:33,839 this is a good one for you who asks will 310 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:36,160 lucy be sending data and photos during 311 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:41,670 yeah great question so lucy has a 312 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:44,880 two-way light time of about 45 minutes 313 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,680 to send commands and receive data 314 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,519 so we'll have the first images back 315 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:51,680 within a few hours after flying by the 316 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:54,560 first asteroid which is your babies will 317 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:00,550 nice that is so exciting to hear that 318 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:03,279 they're coming back and so uh kathy i've 319 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:04,959 got a great one for you 320 00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,079 um 321 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:08,639 sean on youtube asks what is the 322 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:11,680 composition of a trojan asteroid 323 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,160 well that's a really good question 324 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,760 so um 325 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:17,279 they 326 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:19,440 have different spectral types and that's 327 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:20,880 how we can tell about the surface 328 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:22,480 composition 329 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:23,360 and 330 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,760 they look like some of the asteroids in 331 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:28,079 the asteroid belt we call them uh 332 00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:31,600 there's c d and p type asteroids that 333 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,759 are in the asteroid belt or in the 334 00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,519 trojan asteroids 335 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:37,759 and one thing we really want to know 336 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:39,199 when we visit 337 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:40,959 with lucy is 338 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,000 what is the composition is there water 339 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:46,160 uh near the surface 340 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,120 what other uh what are the densities of 341 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,199 these objects so part of the reason 342 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:53,199 we're going to visit is really to answer 343 00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:54,480 that question 344 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,880 and from the ground we can see the 345 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:58,000 overall 346 00:16:02,790 --> 00:15:59,199 uh 347 00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:02,800 composition of the surface but to see 348 00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:05,519 surface details that aren't resolved 349 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:09,519 will really need to send a spacecraft 350 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:10,880 so actually kathy i've got a great 351 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:13,279 follow-up to you so john on facebook 352 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:15,120 wants to know will we know where the 353 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:20,310 that's a good question and we're going 354 00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:22,320 to be trying to answer that question and 355 00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:23,519 by looking 356 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,030 stable at further distances from the sun 357 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,279 if we can find those on the trojan 358 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:35,519 asteroids that's going to be one key 359 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:38,480 clue to where they had originated 360 00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:39,199 the 361 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,759 is going to be something we're looking 362 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:47,440 for when we fly by 363 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:51,199 in starting in 2027 364 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,199 nice okay um adriana uh lori jones on 365 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,279 twitter asks if the lucy mission is 366 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,519 successful and provides good data are 367 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,680 there plans for future missions uh such 368 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,160 as lucy's 369 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,039 yes that's a great question because you 370 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,039 know in planetary exploration what we 371 00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,520 have learned is usually we fly by 372 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:13,679 objects by planets 373 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:18,000 and then the next step is toward the 374 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:19,439 object or 375 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:23,280 and then and then to learn so we did our 376 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:27,120 planning and uh will be having 377 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,080 calls out for by the scientific 378 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,039 community to propose the follow-up 379 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:35,840 missions to the lucid mission so a lot 380 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:39,280 more to come this is just the beginning 381 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,520 so i'm interested to know there was 382 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,760 nasa's osiris-rex mission was recently 383 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:46,559 in the news for its first tag sample and 384 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,230 so the osiris-rex commission 385 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:57,990 go ahead kathy yes 386 00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:00,400 thank you adriana uh the 387 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,679 the 388 00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,000 nasa has a whole suite of asteroid 389 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:06,160 missions that work together really 390 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:09,360 synergistically and osiris-rex is one of 391 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:12,640 them in the upcoming mission uh psyche 392 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,520 to a metallic asteroid is another and 393 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:17,360 all of these missions 394 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:20,720 uh really give us different clues about 395 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,919 the not only uh near-earth asteroids 396 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:26,160 main belt asteroids but also trojan 397 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,840 asteroids so we can really piece 398 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:29,760 together uh 399 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:31,919 how the planets in our solar system 400 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,590 thank you for that and so ladies this is 401 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,919 really for whoever wants to take it but 402 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:42,160 jim bloodworth on youtube asks when is 403 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,679 the launch and on what rocket 404 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:47,679 oh i'll take that one 405 00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:51,760 we're launching october 16 2021 is the 406 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,799 opening of our launch period and we're 407 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:57,120 launching on an atlas v 408 00:19:03,590 --> 00:18:58,080 uh 409 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:05,990 nice cannot wait we are under one year 410 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,960 to launch everyone tuning in so uh okay 411 00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:11,120 here's another one 412 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:13,679 aaron moose sorry if i'm messing that up 413 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:16,240 on youtube asks can you see the asteroid 414 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:19,080 with a telescope 415 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,320 [Music] 416 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:23,200 yes and i'll i'll take that one 417 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:26,320 you we can see uh the trojan asteroids 418 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:29,520 with the telescope and in fact uh 419 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:31,760 recently we discovered a small moon 420 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,320 around one of our trojan targets that 421 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,120 we're going to uh our first target is 422 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,679 called urabades and we recently 423 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:41,360 discovered an approximately one 424 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:43,360 kilometer sized moon 425 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:44,320 uh 426 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,120 from 427 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,600 uh the hubble space telescope 428 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:48,880 and so this is 429 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:53,039 uh an example of being able to see uh 430 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,799 that trojan asteroids through a 431 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:57,360 telescope and also 432 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,160 uh being able to search and learn more 433 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,320 about these interesting targets before 434 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:04,880 we get there 435 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:10,870 that the name of the 436 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:13,919 um the new moon that was just discovered 437 00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:17,039 uh in is named keta 438 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:17,919 so 439 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,640 it's it's a new discovery that the lucid 440 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:21,919 team made 441 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,039 with the cable space telescope 442 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:27,440 so yes on the topic of discoveries oh 443 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:28,720 sorry 444 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,000 i just wanted to add um about that name 445 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:35,760 uh the name is in honor of 446 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,240 uh the first woman who was the olympic 447 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:41,679 torchbearer and so uh we're really happy 448 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:44,720 to be able to name this small moon in 449 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,149 wow thank you that is a really fun fact 450 00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:54,000 um and so but on the topic of 451 00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,720 discoveries alex mann on youtube asks 452 00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:59,039 can lucy theoretically discover new 453 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:00,799 asteroids on her way through the 454 00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:06,870 i can go ahead and take that 455 00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:09,200 um it is possible that lucy could 456 00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:12,159 discover uh asteroids 457 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:13,039 uh 458 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:16,480 either in the trojan asteroid swarms 459 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,440 uh 460 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:20,000 or potentially in the main belt but it's 461 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,360 unlikely 462 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:23,600 our telescopes have a very narrow field 463 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:24,559 of view 464 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:27,520 our instruments do and so we won't be 465 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:30,559 trying to search a broad area to find 466 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,440 new main belt or trojan asteroids the 467 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:35,440 real purpose is to get our first 468 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:38,000 close-up look at the trojan asteroids 469 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:39,440 that we'll be 470 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:45,270 nice so jessica i want to go back to uh 471 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,880 what you mentioned earlier in the show 472 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,559 talking about how many people worked on 473 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,559 this mission and i'm curious to know how 474 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:52,240 long have these groups been working on 475 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:58,789 oh wow uh so the discovery proposal for 476 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,520 this i believe was uh started back in 477 00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,120 2014 478 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:06,799 and lucy was awarded in 2016 479 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:09,280 and so we've been working as a formal 480 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,070 wow and to all come together in this one 481 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:18,640 big moment next year that is so exciting 482 00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,280 um and ladies i've got a really great 483 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:23,600 question for whoever wants to take it 484 00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:27,600 rehan on um youtube says will any of 485 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,990 well i can start but i probably lose 486 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:38,720 cathy could follow up 487 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:39,520 no 488 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:45,600 are really quite far away there as we 489 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,520 mentioned in the jupiter's orbit so for 490 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:51,760 them to be uh if they would have to be a 491 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:54,640 major collision to deviate their their 492 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,520 orbit to bring them closer to the inner 493 00:23:02,390 --> 00:22:59,039 solar system 494 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,400 so there is no potential of impact from 495 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:04,880 from the trojan asteroids around the 496 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,110 yeah and i can just add that because 497 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:12,720 they're in these lagrange points which 498 00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,840 are stability zones uh these objects are 499 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,000 not going to escape and then impact 500 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,400 earth and what that also means is that 501 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,039 this is probably uh a specific 502 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,679 population that's not represented in our 503 00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,159 meteorite collection on the ground 504 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:30,000 making it even more important to go 505 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:31,200 visit these 506 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:31,919 uh 507 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,640 trojan targets with our lucy spacecraft 508 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,559 so kathy earlier you mentioned that if 509 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,080 we were standing on an asteroid we 510 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,640 wouldn't necessarily see the next one um 511 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,120 right around us and gerald on youtube 512 00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:46,960 asks how long do you think it will take 513 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:50,559 to go from asteroid to asteroid 514 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,440 oh 515 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,200 that's pretty interesting 516 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:55,360 we have this really 517 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,640 amazing trajectory that enables our 518 00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,679 uh 519 00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,000 our voyage through the trojan asteroids 520 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:04,159 and you can see it here in this 521 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,440 animation this is in a frame rotating 522 00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:09,600 with jupiter and so 523 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:12,559 uh the blue line is uh the lucy 524 00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:15,279 trajectory and we fly 525 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,320 out 526 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,520 uh do two gravity assists past earth to 527 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,600 pump up our aphelion so that we can get 528 00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:24,000 to the trojan asteroids then we fly 529 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,760 through the l4 swarm visiting uh five 530 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,760 different trojan asteroids 531 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,400 first we visit like i said uh eurobabies 532 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:35,200 and it's moon ketta and just 30 days 533 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,120 later we fly past palomili but it's not 534 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,200 until years later that we fly past 535 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:43,360 patroclus and menonicious 536 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,760 later in the l5 swarm 537 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,720 so 538 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:49,440 uh look forward to encounters with 539 00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:59,390 wow nice for a long time and jessica uh 540 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:02,080 doggygamer13 on youtube asks how fast 541 00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:07,430 well when we're flying by the trojan 542 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,880 asteroids we fly by between six and nine 543 00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,720 kilometers a second 544 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:15,039 so that's kind of like doing a 10k in 545 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:21,029 and one thing i'd like you to add to 546 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,640 that is 547 00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,960 imagine as we're flying by trying to 548 00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,559 take images 549 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:29,600 at those great speeds and part of the 550 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:32,000 uh really interesting engineering on 551 00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,200 this mission 552 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,279 is those are those terminal tracking 553 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,880 cameras that i mentioned and they're 554 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,640 mounted on an instrument pointing 555 00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:39,760 platform 556 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:44,799 so that we can remain targeted on the 557 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,760 trojan asteroid as we fly past at such 558 00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,990 so kathy 559 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,919 do you know how 560 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:55,840 how good of resolution are we talking 561 00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:58,400 about with these images 562 00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,320 oh the resolution is going to totally 563 00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,559 transform our understanding of these 564 00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,039 trojan asteroids 565 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:07,039 our highest resolution images will be 566 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,640 about 14 meters per pixel so 567 00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,320 you will be able to see geologic 568 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,919 features on their surface will be able 569 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:15,600 to count craters 570 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,190 nice and so this is for everyone astro 571 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,039 girl on twitter wants to know why are 572 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:27,200 there so many asteroids between mars and 573 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:34,470 well um i can start it and then 574 00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,360 i'm sure cathy or jessica can follow up 575 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,480 you know 576 00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:40,720 it's important to note that the trojan 577 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:43,600 asteroids is a different family from 578 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:46,320 the ones from the main belt dust 579 00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:49,760 the main belt which reside between 580 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,000 mars and jupiter so and again we have 581 00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,400 visited the main belt asteroids with 582 00:27:02,870 --> 00:26:59,039 many other missions and we are planning 583 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:02,880 to continue that relation is a set of 584 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,640 a family of objects that are extremely 585 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,039 importantly understand the chronology 586 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:11,360 and the formation of the planet within 587 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,000 the solar system but the trojan family 588 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:16,880 that as i mentioned is we have mentioned 589 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,200 that it has never been a study and 590 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:23,440 they are the remnants you know during 591 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,120 the formation of the system there were 592 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:27,039 great collisions 593 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:27,840 and 594 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:36,640 material that did not accrete 595 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,640 sufficiently 596 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:39,919 to form 597 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:42,880 all planets so 598 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,000 these dogs that were left over from the 599 00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:49,360 planetary formation uh during 600 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,159 of 601 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,559 you know during the early solar system 602 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:54,640 and that's why we have so many asteroids 603 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,679 or these objects in the main belt in the 604 00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,760 trojans and as well 605 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,320 far far away in the kuiper belt so 606 00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,080 they're they're all different families 607 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,840 and they relate and we're trying to 608 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:07,279 understand them 609 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,159 what the relationship is 610 00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,399 thank you so much unfortunately that's 611 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,000 all the time we have for today i feel 612 00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:15,440 like we could talk about this mission 613 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,640 all day adriana kathy and jessica thank 614 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,720 you so much for joining us and for those 615 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,880 tuning in thank you for watching and 616 00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:24,960 thank you for those great questions we 617 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:27,679 are less than one year away from lucy's 618 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,200 october 2021 launch date and be sure to 619 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,320 visit nasa.gov lucy to for more 620 00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,640 information about the mission and if you 621 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,399 want to stay up to date on mission 622 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:40,640 milestones and activities be sure to 623 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,279 follow nasa's solar system on facebook 624 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:46,000 twitter and instagram again thank you so